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Post by nosey_parker »

Hi all

I brought a Labrador from England and would like to take him with me when I visit the UK. Is this possible? Has anyone done it? What about the costs?

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Post by kteee »

You need to vaccinate the dog against rabies, wait a month then have a blood test done to check that it has sufficient antibodies, then wait 6 months from the date of the test before you can take the dog into the UK. You then need to vaccinate against rabies annually.

Immediately before travelling (I think it is within 48 hours) you need to get a certificate of health from your vet here in Portugal, plus worm and tick treatment.

We have had our dog vaccinated and blood tested, the blood sample is sent to the UK for testing and cost about 70 euros, but we haven't taken him back yet so don't know how much the rest of it costs. Some friends of ours take their dog back to the UK 2 or 3 times a year without any problems.

Contact DEFRA in the UK, or your vet here in Portugal for more information on the rules and regs.
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Our previous dog was a seasoned traveller between England and Portugal. We obtained her pet passport in England but this can now be done in Portugal.

Our new puppy is going to get her rabies shot and microchip inplant next week at 6 months old so I will be able to confirm the cost of this shortly. Certainly you have to wait a further 6 months after this stage before a dog can return to the UK.

You need to get the appropriate tick and flea treatment done more than 24 hours but not 48 hours before the animal enters the UK and it is important to get the approved drug administered and the correct form properly filled in. If you don't the animal cannot enter the UK.

We travelled by car and used a vet near Bordeaux so that the timing was right for a Channel tunnel crossing. The vet used to charge about 20 euros for the treatment and Channel Tunnel charge £30 for the animal to cross (but you only pay one way not two). If you drive you need to find hotels that take dogs for your overnight stays. All the Accor group do and we regularly used Ibis or Novotels.

A neighbour of ours here has brought his dog out by air for his winter stays over the last couple of years and the dog found the process OK but I don't know what it cost.
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A few weeks ago I looked into bring a cat to Portugal and found it to be quite easy. With a pet passport an animal that is chipped and had the rabies jab can travel to Portugal. It can not re-enter the UK for 6 months after the jab. So I guess you will have to wait 6 months after having the jab in Portugal.

It has to enter the UK through an approved port Heathrow / Gatwick / Manchester / Tunnel (not sure about ferries) and only certain airlines will carry them. Monarch and GB airways do from Portugal. The cost with GB airways was £6.70 per kilo including the weight of the transportation box to enter Portugal and a flat fee of £250 to return to the UK, due to the checks that are required entering the UK. The £250 included the jabs for ticks etc that are required.

check out defra.gov.uk for full info.

This is the contact for GB in Faro who have full details

Faro – Portugal:
00 351 289 818 344/384/280 - Antonio Fonseca

Taking from the Defra site -

The procedures

Your pet may not enter the UK under PETS until six months have passed from the date that your vet took the blood sample which led to a successful test result. Once the vet has signed the PETS certificate and that six month period has passed, the PETS certificate is valid and your pet may enter the UK.

Have your pet microchipped - Before any of the other procedures for PETS are carried out, your pet must be fitted with a microchip so that it can be properly identified.
Have your pet vaccinated - After the microchip has been fitted your pet must be vaccinated against rabies.


Arrange a blood test - After your pet has been vaccinated, it must be blood tested to make sure that the vaccine has given it a satisfactory level of protection against rabies.


Get a PETS certificate - Once these steps have been successfully completed, you can get an official PETS certificate from a government authorised vet.


Before your pet enters the UK, have it treated against ticks and a tapeworm - Your pet must be treated against ticks and a tapeworm between 24 - 48 hours before it is checked in for the journey to the UK. Any qualified vet can carry out the treatment. The vet must also issue an official certificate of treatment to show that this treatment has been carried out. If you are going abroad on a day trip with your pet, you will have to have this done before you go.


Sign a declaration of residency - You will have to sign a declaration (PETS 3) that your animal has not been outside any of the PETS qualifying countries (listed in the accompanying form PETS 3A) in the six months before it enters the UK.


Arrange for your animal to travel on an authorised route - Your animal must enter England from a PETS country travelling on authorised route with an approved transport company.

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Post by nosey_parker »

Thank you for all your help. Our dog is at the vets next month for his annual vaccinations and we shall inform the vet that we want to have him prepared for travelling.

We brought him by plane last time and the expense was huge so we want to take him by car this time and take the opportunity to do some sightseeing as well.

Also, if we need to go to the UK before the six months are due can you recommend any decent kennels in the Algarve? I just dread leaving him in the kennels but even more so in Portugal. I don't know how good they are.
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I lived in Madeira from 1999 for four and a half years. I found my dog abandoned as a small puppy in a carrier bag at Cabo Girao. We made our first trip back to the UK in 2000, many followed our last being our homecoming late 2003.
My only option from Madeira was to fly, my dog only weighs 4KG which means she is allowed in the cabin with TAP. In fact she always sat on my lap when we visited Carvoeiro, Funchal to Lisbon then a walk around duty free before heading down to Faro !! Twice going back to the UK I flew direct to Amsterdam then went BMI to Heathrow. The bonus being it was slightly cheaper but more importantly she was not in the hold for so long. I flew direct with GB airways from Funchal to Gatwick when we came home late 2003. I paid £375 for my dog just for the one way journey, when entering the UK with a pet the airline charge a flat fee, it does not vary with weight. She was dropped off for her pre flight checks and by the time she was released by the animal quarantine reception at Gatwick eight and a half hours had passed.
Needless to say the next time she leaves and re-enters the UK it will not be by air, that's for sure.
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Oh karen, that was bad. We had to book our dog in a flight 3/4 days before ours and my parents picked him up in Faro.

It took a good hour before he was released, which was not too bad. But I was left in tears back home seeing the poor thing caged not knowing where he was going. It was just horrible. He couldn't remember my parents either so he wouldn't eat...

Just thinking of it makes me want to cry :( :oops:

We paid about £600 (including transport from Lincon to airport, jabs, vets, flight) and he flew with Airtours from East Midlands. Definetly going back by car.
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Post by iane »

The dogs hotel in Bouliquieme is recommended by some friends of mine but we always use Shelford Kennels and Cattery in Almancil (for our cat) the guys who run it are good and the fees are reasonable
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Hi all,

Very interested in everyones coments on this subject as we are just completing on a new apartment in Carvoeiro and would like to come out next summer for 4/5 weeks. We had discussed bringing our dog with us as didn't want to leave him that long and were looking at our options. (It would in fact be coming home for him as we rescued him from the streets of Carvoeiro two years ago and brought him to Scotland and now want to take him back again!). Coming from Scotland makes the journey that little bit longer to drive but the Superfast ferry from Rosyth to Zeebrugge now has authority to carry pets under pets passport scheme so we would probably intend doing that route. I looked also though at the Santander route. My main concern is where the animals are kept on the ferries. Do they have kennels and what about any exercise on such a long sailing. My dog is quite large and would not be keen on keeping him locked up for hours on end.(apparently you are allowed dog in cabin on Superfast which appeals more on an overnight sailing but still to confirm this)
Can any one also advise on hotels that accept dogs in France & Spain, and perhaps advise of any vet that they have used for the vaccinations and certificates required for the return to he uk. I think it was Steve that mentioned a vet in Toulouse . Do you have a name and address Steve?
Is best route to go through Spain towards Seville or to go the other way and go down by Lisbon etc
Would really like to take him with us if we can and would hopefully make the long journey more bearable by plenty of sightseeing breaks and overnight stops and make it part of the holiday experience. Of course 4 weeks in Carvoeiro at end of it is a big bonus. :P
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Post by kteee »

We drove our dogs out last year, we took the tunnel to calais then drove to toulouse on to barcelona, valencia, seville and carvoeiro (we did a detour to visit a place in the pyrenees that I hadn't been to for years).

We stayed in Ibis hotels which were very helpful and let us have the dogs in the room with us, they also opened tins of dog food for us as we had forgotten to pack a tin opener!

We left on Thursday evening and arrived in Cvo on Sunday afternoon - we didn't rush but didn't take it easy either, it was quite a comfortable drive really.
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Carolynb
Sorry but I can't remember the name of the vet concerned. There are however plenty who can do the job and if I remember correctly the Defra website had a list of vets in France or a link to a yellow pages that gave info. You can get the treatment around Calais easily enough but you have to wait 24 hours before you can then cross the Channel.

We used to use Ibis hotels and the occasional Novotel (more expensive but usually with more secure parking) because they take dogs and are conveniently situated through France. There is a modern Ibis in Madrid with a gated parking compound which puts you the right side of the city for a run down to CVO the next day. If you are bring a lot of stuff in the car my advice would be to check what parking arrangements are before you book. You don't want to have to leave the car in a public carpark unattached to the hotel.

We prefer to take the motorway towards Lisbon and and then take the motorway down to the Algarve bit it is a matter of personal taste. The non motorway roads are not bad and save the tolls but having done it a few times we found the ease of the motorways which are very empty by UK standards to be worth the cost.

Alistair Sawday publishes books on bed and breakfast places in France, Spain and Portugal. The places are also listed on his website www.sawdays.co.uk and you could check which would let you take a dog.
Some of these are truly magnificent and quite unlike many English b & bs.
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Post by carolynb »

Thanks Steve and Kteee for info.
Hopefully will look into it in more detail towards end of year but am actually looking forward to making trip by road for a change. It doesn't sound as daunting as I first thought and bringing the dog with us means we can spend longer in Carvoeiro.

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Post by BobT »

Hi Nosey

We brought our setter over eighteen months ago, and even thought seh had the pet passport and all the appopriate vacinations, we were not once asked by any officials for papers, even going over on the boat.
Since we have been here, we have put her in kennels once at the kennels next to the rescue centrer north of Portimao, on the road to Casais. Sara who runs the place seems good, she used to work at the resuce center, and leased some land of them to run her own kennels, so the rescue centre gets some money too. Our setter came back a bit overweight after ten days, which probably means she did not run here usual ten miles a day, but got well fed. Tel 282 969434 0r 968 606 812
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We brought two dogs from Carvoeiro last summer after getting their Pet passports with the help of the APAA. The costs were £100 for the travel boxes and then £299 + VAT per dog. That was flying from Faro to Gatwick on GB Airways. It was all arranged through a company called 'easipet.com' and I would certainly recommend them!
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