Carvoeiro's new 40 mtr military com tower

[Steen Jakobsen]

Please find all the pictures here: http://www.gallery.carvoeiro.com/spgm/i ... ion_at_ADM

[stephenryan]

We are trying desperately to find a lawyer that is a> willing to take on the camera and b> is willing to work quickly and get an injunction this week!
Anyone heard of or used Carvalhinho Correia in Faro? Anyone have any contacts to a "big firm" lawyer in Lisbon?? All suggestions welcome.
help...

Also we should think about a "fighting fund" as mentioned by others in earlier posts as this is likely to be a drawn out process. Are many owners going to CVO at easter? If so perhaps a meeting can be convened. I am in CVO over the may day bank holiday and assume that there will be plenty to discuss by then and that we will have more of a feeling as to how the camera wants to respond to us.

Baring a miracle change of heart by the camera, it may be that we will have to fight against a continuation of their off handed indifference and that will take patience and funds.

Perhaps Hal can arrange a bank acc that people can start donating to asap. I volunteer to be the first donor! I'm happy to have Hal or other "known" persons have control of the fund. Any thoughts anyone?

SR from no8 ADM

[EMM]

Did this make the Local TV news ? there was a report in the Online Resident about it but not many details ?

[beekeeper]

I think that to have any hope of success we need to employ an International lawyer not one from Algarve any Barrister own any property locally as they may have ideas,I will enquire in UK.

[halj]

According to the SIC-TV reporter, her story on Tuesday's protest should be on the main 8pm newscast "Jornal do Noite" tonight (Wed Apr . If, like me, your local TV reception is problematic, or the broadcast time inconvenient, use your computer to find "SIC Online" at:

http://sic.aeiou.pt/online/noticias/pro ... l+da+noite

We have been told there could be more tv interest tomorrow (Thursday).

I'd like to thank everyone for their concern, moral (and sometimes practical) support and sympathy - particularly those who travelled from areas not directly affected. Your attendance at our protest against this terrible threat to our quality of life was much appreciated. Hal.

[stephenryan]

Please note I have started an "ipetition" which i encourage all to forward on to those affected or interested in this. Please get as many people as possible, residents, renters, businesses etc to sign up. I have asked Steen the webmaster to promote it on the home page of Carvoeiro.com so I hope that may appear soon too.
Thanks to everyone for their support!

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/carvoeiroTower/

Stephen from no 8

[pato]

Hal, it may be useful to get a valuation on your Villa and the surrounding properties, a) with the mast errected and, b) without the mast, it could help in any future compensation claims against the Camera for devaluation of your property.

[Rob F]

Would not it be useful to find out whether all political parties of Lagoa agree to this monstruous tower? Perhaps there is a politician who wants to make a name for him or herself???

[martin]

dont forget when you go down the "lawyer route" the old saying here,

"To start a court case in portugal - make sure your under 30 and in good health."

take care that if you employ legal "international" lawyers that they dont see you as a piece of everlasting chewing gum, with every last centimo extracted in the pursuit of this case

as for compensation, the donkey sanctuary had their land confiscated a few years ago and cut into two section with the building of new Lagoa bypass which cut straight thru their land ..in compensation - the head of the charity told me that the money they received didnt even pay for new fencing for their now divided land

[jaybee]

In any legal battle there is only ever one true winner. (How do you spell ADVOGADO in English?)




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[halj]

Thank you for all those encouraging posts about lawyers

Naturally, we would prefer that common sense prevails over blinkered bureaucracy. However, if it does not, the only choices we'll have are living (or dying) with the consequences, or taking legal action.

We have a little encouraging news and that is the Camara now admits it made a mistake in locating the base of the proposed tower so close to our villa. That, together with the fact that we are now into the Easter weekend, means we have a small window of opportunity to change the minds of those with the power to move this tower to a more suitable site. We will work as hard as we can to do that.

[Michael Crane]

...That, together with the fact that we are now into the Easter weekend, means we have a small window of opportunity to change the minds of those with the power to move this tower to a more suitable site. We will work as hard as we can to do that.

But where? Have you (or anyone else) looked into an alternative location? Won't moving it elsewhere perhaps result in other nimby reactions? NB: I use nimby, not in a derogatory sense, but in one that describes the situation at the moment.

Perhaps you should seek an alternative location and present it to the Camara. The area around the village must be stuffed with high-visibility areas on which a 40mtr tower can be erected without it being placed (almost literally) in someone's back yard. It is a transmitter mast, for goodness sake, and as such will transmit its signals from wherever it is situated. Moving it elsewhere will have no adverse effect upon its functionality.

I wonder how many Camara officials live nearby? I'd guess none.

[EMM]

Are these masts part of a chain of such masts that have already or are planned to be erected across the region and their locations are linked to the others making it harder to relocate .
Its not just in Portugal on our local news ( west ) this morning Vodaphone are in trouble for starting work ( despite a local council ruling AGAINST them ) on a site for a new mast also in a coastal location.
I fear that these masts are all part of the new " security focused " world we live in.
If the " intelligence " community wants them then so be it !!

[HampshireRich]

Are these masts part of a chain of such masts that have already or are planned to be erected across the region and their locations are linked to the others making it harder to relocate .
Its not just in Portugal on our local news ( west ) this morning Vodaphone are in trouble for starting work ( despite a local council ruling AGAINST them ) on a site for a new mast also in a coastal location.
I fear that these masts are all part of the new " security focused " world we live in.
If the " intelligence " community wants them then so be it !!

Actually in the UK these mast don't even need planning permission - there are few, if any, restrictions as to where they can be placed. This could possibly be an EU ruling, which is why I think Halj could be fighting a losing battle.

[stephenryan]

Dear Hampshire, thanks for your post but if you were in this situation I'm sure you wouldn't just roll over and give up, we certainly wont!
We feel we have a great case and are pursuing it as vigerously as possible. I have experience in the UK of going to the dep PM office to appeal local planning errors and winning that case. Local officals do sometimes make mistakes and not think things through, we believe that that has occured here and are confident of being able to make them see sense.
I'd prefer your best wishes and support in future!
thanks,
SR