Guests

Michael Crane · Post by **Michael Crane** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:43 pm

I am a spasmodic user of this forum, but a registered user none-the-less.

Why are so-called 'guests' allowed to post? More often than not they seem to be causing trouble and or division among the bona fide members.

Let them look by all means, but, if they want to have their two-pennyworth, then let 'em join.

ROD · Post by **ROD** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:51 pm

Unfortunately Michael we've recently done a similar poll. If you look back a page you will see that the grand total of 24 members voted, and 40% of those were happy with the obnoxious guests continued presence

Michael Crane · Post by **Michael Crane** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:00 pm

Ooops! Well, perhaps now after recent postings the vote will change.

I would have reported the results in a different way:
60% said sling your hook!

Vox Populi

PS: Any way of knowing how many votes were cast by 'guests'? I'd estimate 40%

maddi · Post by **maddi** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:36 pm

Hi MC

"Guests" cannot vote in polls (one good thing!!) so we cannot blame them for being the 40% - however I was one of the 40% despite constantly going up against obnoxious guests on this forum on at least a monthly basis, I have to say that I am with those who say we virtually all start our membership as guests and the vast majority simply want to know how long it will take them to get from Faro to CVO. I really do think there are lots of genuine guests out there who post a few questions before a holiday to the area but who do not necessarily become fixated with the place as we have done - getting them to become members would be counterproductive.

Despite all of this I really take offence at obnoxious guests who post on this forum only to insult regular members or to take issue with something that has been posted usually without even the courtesy of an 'appropriate' and identifiable name (i.e. this could be a 'handle but one they use every time they post) - I do not know the answer to this.

For the record "Obnoxious" means simply that, I don't have the slightest problem with differing views and healthy debate (bloody good job too since I join in so many

)

heini · Post by **heini** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:22 pm

I just voted "No" so we have a 100% no-vote at the time. Most forums don't allow you to post unless your are registered and I believe that it will cut down on those "obnoxious posts" that Maddi refers to. Anyone who is really interested to get more out of this forum than just visiting should not be deterred by the registration/log in process as it takes only a few minutes. You can check the automatic log in box and then you will only have to log in again after you have cleaned out your cookies - from the computer not the cupboard. See you soon Carvoeiro!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:43 pm

what if some us guests dont know what cookies are - only the edible variety and we're not all bad you know

I'm a guest this time because it seems too embarassing to admit I still dont know what a cookie is (i didnt get to use this new forum until summer, took me that long to press the right button

and re. registering anyway - I would have to put in a false name for personal/safety reasons(not wanting to be traced by taxman etc.

) so what are we achieving? Surely obnoxious guests could register many times under aliases, - dont think registering would put them off? Please don't tar us all with the same brush - i am a friendly guest on this site and sometimes I forget to put in my name (as we all do) and come on admit it you guys you really do enjoy the 'obnoxious' guests? If you don't then you only have to remember that bullys hate being ignored, just don't give them the satisfaction of a reply. Wouldnt be a very good site if we all became politically correct and polite would it??

btw where is blobby?

and i think he's registered!!

cowboy · Post by **cowboy** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:23 am

I voted "yes".....I've been active on this site for a long time, and I've seen it come, and I've seen it go (Smokey Joe's Cafe got started over the "Blooby" incident.....I think I posted my best post at Smokeys, thanks to Maddi), and we kept going on just fine. If you were a regular visitor to this site, you would that.....we tend to police ourselves.

Speaking of policing ourselves, I couldn't help but notice that you, Mr. Crane, and Ryan, both popped up at the same time....got everyone upset, (God knows everyone hates a Pervert), and then started this Poll.

Personaly, this dosn't add up, Mr. Crane. I, as we say in Texas, smell a rat.

I welcome your reply,

Cowboy

Michael Crane · Post by **Michael Crane** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:29 am

cowboy wrote:Personaly, this dosn't add up, Mr. Crane. I, as we say in Texas, smell a rat.

I welcome your reply,

Cowboy

I was wrong in an earlier posting, I can be offended! I am offended by your insuation that I am Ryan.

Perhaps you stoop to such low behaviour; I do not. If I have anything to say on any topic or about any person, I come out and say it. I do not hide behind a nickname but use my own name - unlike you.

Via my profile you can access my email address, home address and telephone number - I have nothing to hide. And, if you believe that I have set up a false identity, by all means come to my house and meet me.

I don't expect an apology. But you are completely wrong and it saddens me that you even thought it let alone posted it.

Ellie · Post by **Ellie** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:12 pm

michael--Im wondering if Cowboy was referring to the-- e-mail you posted on Tues 16th--the Ryan@backgammon one?
no Im not accusing you--dont think that----but was curious about name

maddi · Post by **maddi** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:24 pm

Hi Guest

As you know I am happy to have Guests post on this forum for the reasons I have stated. However I do believe that if you are using the forum regularly you should register which actually takes seconds and is an incredibly simply process (ignore talk of cookies etc you can register dead easily even if a cookie for you comes with chocolate chips - why some people feel the need to blind the layman with science - god only knows.)

I do disagree with you about obnoxious guests - I do not enjoy them, I think they are vile and I actually do ignore them - as I am not one to feed the wolf. Blobby as you say is registered and as you know many of us found him obnoxious but as least we knew they were his posts, regardless of the handle, the individual owned the posts and that is all I really want. I am happy for you for reasons of personal security (a big issue in my life too bearing in mind what I do for a living) to give yourself a handle as Cowboy, Biffa and many others have done but would simply love to know when I am talking to you (and it makes it significantly easier to not be tarred with the obnoxious guest brush because you would be "sooty" or whatever)

Cowboy, as you know I disagreed with MC throughout the Ryan post, however I do not for one minute think MC is Ryan, as he says it is simply not his style, and spookily in common with me MC is perfectly happy to own everything he posts (including the crap

)

Maddi

Michael Crane · Post by **Michael Crane** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:33 pm

Hey, Maddi, we're drifting closer and closer together!

Just because we sometimes don't agree it doesn't mean I don't respect you, because I do. The best of friends can have vastly differing views and argue their corner with passion but at the end of the day, they remain friends.

Michael Crane · Post by **Michael Crane** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:39 pm

Ellie. I see your point about the email address. I often use my generic backgammon address to alert me to certain incoming emails. In this instance it was for a 'Ryan' related one.

As Maddi says, it isn't my style. I mean, I am far to self-opinionated to hide behind a bogus identity. I am more than happy to accept bouquets and brickbats under my proper name.

I dare say that if I did attempt to make an anonymous posting you and Maddi and a few others would spot me a mile off

maddi · Post by **maddi** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:30 pm

dare say that if I did attempt to make an anonymous posting you and Maddi and a few others would spot me a mile off

Love to say that was true and to be honest there are any number of people on here who I can spot when they post either under another name or as a guest but I don't doubt for a minute that there are any number I have missed

.

I also know that certain people who have alienated themselves under one persona for some reason have returned with a new one and I can't say I blame them for that

. (I couldn't stay for long - I once tried when one or two of you upset me but look how that lasted!!!)

Maddi

Michael Crane · Post by **Michael Crane** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:49 pm

Maddi, you know how I always seem to court controversy - you only have to look at the Hisaronu site to see that! I don't do it deliberately. I have an enquiring mind and ask questions that others would prefer were left unsaid.

Although I am tenacious in my debating and hate to back down (but I do when proven wrong!) I always try to be honest.

The 'Ryan' posting is a good example. It was slowly dying a natural death when, out of the blue, in I step and whooosh; we're into the hundreds of reads and seventy-odd replies!

Don't despair, my detractors, I might just as easily disappear again . . . . . but don't hold your breath!

cowboy · Post by **cowboy** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:39 am

Michale Crane Wrote:.

.."I was wrong in an earlier posting, I can be offended! I am offended by your insuation that I am Ryan."

As I am sure Ryan was offended at your insuation that he was, shall we say, "Different" some how.

....Perhaps you stoop to such low behaviour; I do not.

...........
..."Hi, I was wandering where the young people go in carvoeiro?
And where are they?
And how do I come in contact with them?
Is there a chat somewhere where I can meet them?
Thanx!"

...."Am I the only one a little suspicious of this request? "
..............

I'ed say you already have, Michael.

..."I have anything to say on any topic or about any person, I come out and say it."

And so will I .....Michael, you were way out of line on Ryan's post.

I do not hide behind a nickname but use my own name - unlike you.

"Cowboy" suits me fine. (those that know me call mw "Coop")

Via my profile you can access my email address, home address and telephone number - I have nothing to hide.

Nor do I, but I do think it's foolish to put so much personal information out on the Web for all to see. It's not hiding, it's just common sense.
E-mail addresses, I can see, but anything beyond that, such home address and phone numbers is just asking for trouble.

And, if you believe that I have set up a false identity,

I don't think you set up a false idenity....I wanted you to see how it felt being on the receiving end of your little gambit.

]by all means come to my house and meet me.[/b]

I'ed love to.

Yours,
Cowboy

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